I would rather they leave the stucco off and i can get the ceiling ready for paint. What do you think? Popcorn gets dusty in the crevices over the years and looks nasty down the road This contractor is trying to rob you; there should be no cost difference. I would delete the textured finish and any painting for a credit and then get someone to finish the ceiling to your satisfaction. When he realizes he is about to lose work he will probably tell you there is no change in cost fr a level 4 finish.
Where I live a textured ceiling cost mire than a level 4 taped finish but I'm not talking about "popcorn" which is not used anymore.
Here is a link that might be useful: textured finishes. You can finish the joints yourself but you need to get two ladders, a wide plank and a large curved drywall trowel. The trowel allows you to overfill the joint slightly so when it shrinks it will be flat. If done properly a skim coat is not necessary but be aware that imperfections on a ceiling are easier to see than on a wall so learn to use the curved trowel first and use a strong light held tightly to the ceiling.
Here is a link that might be useful: curved drywall trowel. Another negative to acoustic, popcorn , lids is that you can only paint them once, and that is still risking the product falling loose from the weight. There are still folks here who like them and I've done many repairs including ceilings done in the sixties that have glitter sprayed on after the acoustic is applied, before it dries.
Hard repairs to match but soooooo groovy baby! Here, a smooth finish is always an upcharge because it's MUCH more labor intensive than slapping up some tape and spraying some acousic from a hopper to cover the crappy taping job. This isn't a case of anyone trying to rob anyone. It IS extra labor. Bad drywall finishing on a ceiling is certainly DIYable but a good quality smooth paintable surface is difficult to achieve, even by the pros.
Thus the extra cost. Just see if you can find another contractor to give you the same level of finish for that amount of money. You might be surprised. You might also be surprised at how much money a contractor would want to remove the texture and give you a smooth finish after you close. It would be a no brainer to me.
I hate textured ceilings. I can tell you that you will get the best result for yourself if you stay calm about this and proceed with a little less heat. At the moment, you're getting some speculation from strangers here, and you don't have all the info from the contractor that would be helpful in making a decision.
Don't assume they're conniving unless they really can't explain the basis for the cost difference. The problem lies in finding an experienced, competent finsher to get you that glass smooth finish that a level 5 is capable of being. Level 4's are fine but in some caeses involving the light of the room s , you can still see uneveness of the mudded joints concerning the differences of the wallboard paper and the compound.
A level 5 typically doesn't have that concern. The OP did not tell us what the actual ceiling finish will be so we are all guessing. But "stucco" is not a ceiling finish so I suspect he is talking about a knock-down textured finish instead of spray-on popcorn and therefore it is reasonable to assume there is some cost for the ceiling finish.
If this is the case, substitution of a taped finish should not be an upcharge. I know nothing about a level 5 finish, it is not done in my area. I only know the practices in my little neck of the woods of six million people.
That's why all these details should have been worked out before the build started. In that case, you might have even bargained for that at no extra cost. Give it a try yourself and I'm betting you will soon be looking for a drywall contractor I assumed "popcorn" textured as that is the most common ceiling finish here and it resembles stucco.
I don't know why a level 4 finish would cost more than that since it's a small step up in labor and no material cost. Find an honest drywall finisher. So I too am assuming you are talking about popcorn ceilings where they just spray on the stucco finish I think. Perhaps you could have a compromise? It is a very popular upgrade but certainly not as expensive or labour intensive as flat throughout. Just a thought. I work out of Toronto and regularly see houses throughout the Greater Toronto Area.
I was a real estate broker for 17 years and beside building, do mortgage inspections for my mortgage company. Only once do I recall seeing popcorn in a new luxury home. Amazed, I actually questioned someone who knew the builder. He said the builder was from Iran and that such a finish was considered luxurious there, so he used it here too.
He would be the exception amongst Iranian builders here, who dominate the luxury infill market and are very adept at judging tastes. Iranians in enclaves here are sometimes called Tehrantonians. Popcorn throughout. If the ceiling is rubbed too hard, however, the texture may come loose or crack and fall off. The fact is, both of these rooms collect a lot of moisture.
When moisture is absorbed in a popcorn ceiling, the texture of the ceiling loosens and eventually comes down.
In a bathroom with a smooth ceiling, paint that is designed to combat moisture can be used. If a home was built before and popcorn ceilings were installed, asbestos may be in the mixture. In fact, asbestos 9 was used as a binder in popcorn ceilings before it was banned. Even after the ban, some materials with asbestos 9 that remained in stock was allowed to be sold. If there is a chance that asbestos 9 is in your popcorn ceilings, then a licensed professional must remove it.
Smooth ceilings don't collect as much dust as popcorn ceilings because of the flat surface. Because a popcorn ceiling has a rough surface, dust will attach itself to the bumps and ridges, which makes keeping it clean difficult. Popcorn ceilings are better at noise insulation than smooth ceilings because of the increased surface area. In fact, it can be used in rooms where noise is an issue for the homeowner.
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Aesthetics The appearance of a popcorn ceiling 1 is irregular and may resemble the texture of popcorn or even cottage cheese. Maintenance The maintenance of a popcorn ceiling can be difficult because of the rough texture.
Dust Smooth ceilings don't collect as much dust as popcorn ceilings because of the flat surface. Was this guide helpful to you? Yes No.
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Bathroom Painting. Paint Ceiling. Hallway Painting. Kitchen Painting. Kitchen Cabinet Painting. Living Room Painting. A popcorn ceiling damaged by unsightly stains or cracks can be patched, but obtaining an exact match of the original texture and ceiling color can be challenging. Popcorn ceiling patch products are available in spray-on aerosol cans or in premixed containers for application with a brush. Thinned drywall compound, which is commonly used to texture new ceilings today, is not recommended for patching popcorn ceiling texture since it contains water, which can cause the existing popcorn texture to come off.
Begin by brushing off all dust with a super-soft-bristle brush attached to an extension pole. Then apply stain blocking ceiling primer to prevent stains and water spots from bleeding through. When dry, use a thick nap roller or a paint sprayer to apply paint, remembering to get an ample supply to fill all the nooks and crannies.
You can hide a popcorn ceiling by installing rigid foam ceiling tiles, drywall panels, or even wood planking right over the existing texture. Feather-light decorative foam ceiling panels can be installed with adhesive, while drywall and wood must be attached to the ceiling joists with nails or screws. For high ceilings more than 8 feet from the floor, you might want to consider installing a drop ceiling, which involves mounting a metal grid that holds individual ceiling panels a few inches below the existing ceiling.
Unpainted popcorn ceilings are not necessarily difficult to remove , but the process is messy and time-consuming. You can find stripping solutions specifically designed to remove painted popcorn ceilings at your local home improvement center or online view example on Amazon.
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